Our nation is not properly ruled
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Our nation was built upon the basis of the simple freedoms of life, the most notable are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. However, these three ideologies of what this country was built on contradict each other differing from the roots of how individuals live their independent lives. To put it plainly, unless a person is absolutely perfect they cannot live within absolute peace of one another. Based upon Bible doctrine, we know it to be an absolute truth that no person can be absolutely perfect because of how we are wired. Politics are necessary in the modern day world because we can’t practice perfection correctly, and a political system was formed to prevent us from spiraling downwards into chaos, however, God intended for nations to be ruled by people of his choice, not by the people’s choice.
To further explain what I’m trying to convey, in the book of 1 Samuel in the Bible, the leaders of Israel were called judges. These men were called upon by God to pray, and through God’s sovereign leadership he would run the nation through these faulted men who were equipped to make perfect decisions through his word. However, the people of Israel became disobedient and called upon the last remaining judge, Samuel, to do away with the system of judges and find a king to rule. The people of Israel were greedy and wanted a king instead of what God wanted for them. Samuel warned the people of Israel what would happen if they were to disobey him — they would find their country divided and ruled by foreign rulers — but they refused to listen. Many kings ruled Israel, but none ruled the nation as well as the judges had and eventually Israel became divided and fell into the hands of foreign rulers.
God never wanted for leadership to be isolated to mankind and mankind alone. James Madison, a prominent figure in the early setting up of our country and one of our presidents, said, “If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.” Madison is trying to relay that no problems would exist if men had no problems, but because we have faulted leaders we will have faulted leadership. Because of this faulted leadership we have seen this world go to war within its own countries, famine and droughts being left uncontrolled by countries of strength that can afford to help, even though they refuse to. Politics do in fact keep countries from imploding on themselves by ruling with a firm and unequal hand, but it’s at the sacrifice of many great freedoms that were offered by the hand of God. Politics are the greatest necessary evil this world has ever seen.
Tyler Baker • Oct 26, 2018 at 1:34 PM
@ Luke Bryant
Ah, yes, an internet link to a biblical text. Exactly where all the answers lay. Why I did not look there first, I do not know. I surely could have saved time had I known that.
Anyways, you say “The God of the Universe (not the Christian God) is all powerful.” I assume you mean the Christian god and the god of the Universe are one in the same? If not, and you believe in them both then you are polytheistic, and if you are a Christian, then you have committed one of the worst sins by accepting another god, but if you are Christian and believe only in the Christian god, then you have just admitted that he is not all powerful as all Christians claim. If they do not (which they most certainly do), then they are not the true Christians they claim to be, which is fine because now we are getting closer to the truth. Nonetheless, I believe I know what you are saying: He is not just the Christian god but the god of the Universe. Basically, he is the god of everything. Which still leaves many questions unanswered and it always will so long as that is path we take to get to the solution.
And when the people wanted other kings, god did not immediately intervene and he certainly reveled in jealousy and bitterness: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you” (1 Samuel 8:7–8). God said the Israelites’ request was a rejection of Him, that they had forsaken Him and were serving other gods.
He made be known his rejection and brought up all he had done for them, which obviously implies resentment towards them for their turning away from him. If not, he wouldn’t have brought it up in the first place if he did not desire endless praise and recognition for his deed. However, the omnipotent god demands endless praise, which is strange. Why would the almighty demand such if he is capable of doing these great things with ease? Save yourself from having to answer that. I already know what you will say.
Nevertheless, Insecure and capricious, indeed he is. And yes, the link to the article most definitely re-assured my understanding and knowledge of what the ‘Christian God” is or, to be factually and morally correct, is not.
Jake Clancy • Oct 26, 2018 at 10:14 AM
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Luke Bryant • Oct 26, 2018 at 10:11 AM
@Tyler Baker
The God of the universe (not the Christian God) is all powerful. He is capable of of creating whatever government he wants, but he hasn’t. If he was intervening in our lives then we would not have free choice to make our own decisions. He is a God for justice, allowing right and wrong to occur with ultimately having the say on our judgement day. When the people wanted kings, God allowed it, people rejected God’s rule over Israel. He did not force his Lordship upon them as he is not today.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Israelites-ask-king.html
Here is a website with more information on the Israelites asking for a king.
The website also answers most questions you have on the “Christian” God.
Tyler Baker • Oct 25, 2018 at 10:20 PM
The article starts by doing exactly as it should if one is to provide analysis of political rule in the United States by stating, arguably, the three most important principles in the Declaration of Independence (life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness). However, after this sentence, the rest of the article is a complete contradiction of itself and of the three freedoms you initially stated, not to mention an injustice to the two men you reference in this article, that being: Thomas Jefferson (indirectly) and James Madison and to the only secular constitution possessed by any sovereignty in the world.
Also, it is quite ironic that the title of this article is Our nation is not properly ruled. By the contents of the article it is certainly implied that to have a nation “properly” ruled it has to, and must be, ruled by God. Granted, you do say “God intended for nations to be ruled by people of his choice, not by the people’s choice.”. However, is a nation that claims to be democratic actually such if favor or choice by majority is ultimately decided by “his choice, not by the people’s choice” no matter the vote of the people? It most certainly is not. That is deceptively corrupt in a most sinister way.
Furthermore, the reference to James Madison and the quote provided is certainly misconstrued to fit your proposition. Moreover, this is where another contradiction lies. It is also implied by the quote provided that Madison was a man of religion by noting “If angels were to govern men…”. as if Madison felt pity for mankind, and for the nation he helped form, that angelic entities could not “govern men,” because men are unable to do so themselves as a result of their inherent flaws and overall design, which was created so graciously by the perfect designer. In addition, James Madison did not want the state and the church intertwined by any means, which is obvious through in-depth analysis of his political career.
For instance, Madison stated: “a Government which watches over the purity of elections, the freedom of speech and of the press, … and the equal interdict against encroachments and compacts between religion and the state.”. He also stated: “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust.”
James Madison knew by his own studies of history that terrible atrocities had occurred (and have continued to) by means of justification through a religious conviction. And the result of such can easily be vindicated (if not already by the original conviction) if authorized by the state. Madison did, however, believe in religious liberties.
Also, in reference to the article: “Because of this faulted leadership we have seen this world go to war within its own countries, famine and droughts being left uncontrolled by countries of strength that can afford to help, even though they refuse to.” However, during The American Civil War, the nation was split in two, and of the two respective belligerents in that war, the South was a society fervently devoted to its Christian faith, but they ultimately found defeat and were subject to harsh repercussions as a result…
In addition, the Christian God is all powerful, yet the “faulted” men are to blame (not God) for the negligence of “famine and droughts” even though “God never wanted for leadership to be isolated to mankind and mankind alone.” Thereby, if it such is true; that God has a hand in the leadership of mankind, then he is also guilty of negligence when capable of intervening in times of detrimental affairs.
Nonetheless, do not mistake my response to this article as an objection to the author’s personal religious beliefs, this certainly is not the case. My objection is to the underlying tone, which is the desired intermingling or entwining of state and church as one entity as opposed to two, and that the consequences of the past are a result of this separation as implied by the author (“…war within its own countries…”). Ideas like these must be challenged and disputed.
-My e-mail was provided and I certainly do not mind further conversation this subject or any other like such.
Qwest • Oct 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM
Well thought out and written. Nice.