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    Laurie HallMar 12, 2017 at 7:52 PM

    Great essay, thank you!! I came into my atheism much later than you, and I’m so glad I don’t have to pretend something I don’t feel anymore. I too had a very religious upbringing, to the point that when I was a child back in the 60s I worried that Madeline Murray O’Hare would kidnap me! That came of hearing my parents and church members going on and on about how horrible she was. Then years later when I finally read some of the things she said, it made sense. Over time, I read more atheist authors, and the more I read, the clearer it got. I also agree completely that we atheists need to speak out. To support other non-believers, and to show our communities that atheists are just like them, except we’re good without a god! We don’t need the reward of a heaven or the threat of a hell to be good people.

    Thank you again, it’s you and young people like you that give me hope for the future!

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    John PhillipsFeb 19, 2017 at 5:34 PM

    Great essay; thanks for writing it and making your voice heard. And the fact that you’re a Rush fan is just further evidence of your good judgment.

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      Markell Braxton-JohnsonFeb 20, 2017 at 2:33 PM

      Thank you, John. And – yes – I’m a huge Rush fan!! Glad someone noticed.

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    George WolfFeb 19, 2017 at 12:52 PM

    I always feel so postive when I read accounts like Markell’s. Great going!

    I too became an atheist in my first year of high school — in 1964. I did it in spite of the reaction of my parents and like you felt freer to speak out once I got to college. I guess it’s become old hat for me to hear the same tired arguments by christians against repeated ad infinitum. So many of them sound surprised when their ideas are refuted so easily.

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      Markell Braxton-JohnsonFeb 20, 2017 at 2:28 PM

      Thanks, George! I can’t begin to imagine what it was like being an atheist +50 years ago – as I assume people were far less accepting of disbelievers then than they are now. That’s why I felt it important to give an atheist’s perspective. Theists should know that atheist are all around the country, in every walk of life. Our voices matter, and we ought not be afraid to let them be known.

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    CodyFeb 18, 2017 at 10:00 PM

    Miss Wendy, you ignorant piece of crap. Have some more Bible quotes while ur at it.

    Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him.
    Leviticus 24:16

    Happy shall he be, that takes and dashes your little ones against the stones.
    Psalms 137:9

    Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple.
    Ezekiel 9:6

    This is what the Lord Almighty says… ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.
    1 Samuel 15:3

    I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
    Isaiah 45:7

    Train up a child in the way he should go, Even when he is old he will not depart from it. (Brainwash a child on religion).
    Proverbs 23:6

    “I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent.” Timothy 2:11

    “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.”

    To the woman [God] said, I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you. -Genesis 3:16

    And because your name is Miss Wendy. A woman like you has no right to even preach the word of god. If ur a faggot, ur going to hell immediately.

    A wife is a man’s property: You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Exodus 20:17
    Daughters can be bought and sold: If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. Exodus 21:7
    A raped daughter can be sold to her rapist: 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    Collecting wives and sex slaves is a sign of status: He [Solomon] had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray. 1 Kings 11:3
    Used brides deserve death: If, however the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. Deuteronomy 22:20-21.
    Women, but only virgins, are to be taken as spoils of war: Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Numbers 31:17-18
    Menstruating women are spiritually unclean: 19 “‘When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. 20 “‘Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. 21 Anyone who touches her bed will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 22 Anyone who touches anything she sits on will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, . . . 30 The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the LORD for the uncleanness of her discharge. 31 “‘You must keep the Israelites separate from things that make them unclean, so they will not die in their uncleanness for defiling my dwelling place,[a] which is among them.’” Leviticus 15: 19-31
    A woman is twice as unclean after giving birth to girl as to a boy: A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. ‘ 3 On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. 4 Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. 5 If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding. 6 ” ‘When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. Leviticus 12: 1-8
    A woman’s promise is binding only if her father or husband agrees: 2 When a man makes a vow to the LORD or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said. 3 “When a young woman still living in her father’s household makes a vow to the LORD or obligates herself by a pledge 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. 5 But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the LORD will release her because her father has forbidden her. . . . . A woman’s vow is meaningless unless approved by her husband or father. But if her husband nullifies them when he hears about them, then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. Her husband has nullified them, and the LORD will release her. 13 Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself. Numbers 30:1-16
    Women should be seen not heard: Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Wives should submit to their husband’s instructions and desires: Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Colossians 3:18
    In case you missed that submission thing . . . : Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Ephesians 5:22-24.
    More submission – and childbearing as a form of atonement: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. 1 Timothy 2: 11-15
    Women were created for men: For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. 7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 1 Corinthians 11:2-10
    Sleeping with women is dirty: No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as first-fruits to God and the Lamb. Revelation 14:3-4

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    MikeFeb 18, 2017 at 9:58 PM

    Miss Wendy – true to form your religion apparently does not teach inclusion, manners or to not cast the first stone.

    “Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.” — Schiller

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    KillerbeeFeb 16, 2017 at 5:19 PM

    I can’t help but notice the arrogance in Miss Wendys comment.

    Her assumption that the bible should be THE reference point when it has been continually demonstrated to be mainly a work of fiction and her assumption, without a shred of evidence, that a god exists.

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    Miss WendyFeb 15, 2017 at 3:07 PM

    Psalms 14:1;53:1 – the fool says in his heart “there is no God”…

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      FreethoughtFeb 16, 2017 at 2:44 PM

      The wise man knows it in his head!

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      PalmPeteFeb 16, 2017 at 3:46 PM

      So your ancient rule book is really stupid and abusive.
      Grow out of it please, it’s nasty and wrong.

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      Chris WeissFeb 17, 2017 at 7:35 AM

      The only “proof” of any god is the words in holy books written before the arrival of modern science and technology. More knowledge have been accumulated in the last 200 years than in all of human history prior to this period combined. In the last 200 years, there have been no major religious revelations. Hmmmm…. is there is a connection? What is more likely to be true – bronze and iron age mythology or modern science and clear thinking?

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      SkepticNYFeb 17, 2017 at 9:44 AM

      Yep even fools are smart enough to realize gods do not exist.

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      ErmineFeb 18, 2017 at 2:17 PM

      Even the devil can quote scripture…

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      Eli CalvilloFeb 18, 2017 at 4:34 PM

      1 Timothy 2:11-15
      Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

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      No OneFeb 18, 2017 at 5:37 PM

      If even the fool can understand that, why can’t you?

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      AnonFeb 18, 2017 at 8:01 PM

      1Timothy 2:12 says, “I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man; she must be silent”.

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      AndyFeb 18, 2017 at 10:13 PM

      “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” 1 Timothy 2:12

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      Matthew StephensonFeb 19, 2017 at 1:35 AM

      What’s the point in quoting the Bible? I can quote extremely similar quotes in a lot of other biblical texts.

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      AndrewFeb 19, 2017 at 4:09 AM

      Quoting a religious book to defend that religion as being real is, well, kind of stupid. Shall I start quoting Harry Potter to prove that wizards are real? Or maybe some ancient Greek or Roman religious books. Or *gasp* the Koran! Would you accept those passages as proof of those gods? If not, why does your book of mythology hold any more significance?

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      BeaFeb 19, 2017 at 5:24 AM

      Man created your god. End of story.

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      Miss WendyFeb 19, 2017 at 9:34 AM

      1 Timothy 2:12 – “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.”

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      AdenFeb 19, 2017 at 4:02 PM

      You just called him a fool. What kind of “good Christian” are you supposed to be? You actually think leaving a snarky comment embedded with a bible quote will change his mind? The poor guy is going through a social issue and you decide to leave that comment there? You are the reason religion shouldn’t exist in the first place. All it brings is discrimination and hate.

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      Markell Braxton-JohnsonFeb 19, 2017 at 4:06 PM

      I’ve seen that quote before, but I don’t think it applies to me. I never said “there is no god.” I said, I don’t believe in god.

      Thanks for the reply, though.

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      Pete ArnsworthFeb 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM

      Looks like you should have read more of that Bible, Miss Wendy:

      “And whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.” Matthew 5:22

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    SeanFeb 15, 2017 at 10:50 AM

    I’m surprised at this, because my impression is most accredited secular colleges are largely dominated by non-religious people (or even when people are religious, they are what the bible calls “lukewarm”).

    I guess it depends on which college you are talking about, but I think it is fair to say that most of the Christian conservatives do not hold college-level education (many are homeschooled and sent off to private Christian “college”)

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