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    FormerGreekGirlMay 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Why look at the individual, when they are supposed to be representing a group AS A WHOLE? If Greeks are supposed to be proud of their letters–and want to show them off–then they should try to maintain their ORGANIZATION’S Overall GPA. Greeks claim pride in their fraternity/sorority; why wouldn’t they want to see the GPA raised so that they can trully be proud of their academic success?

    Also, as a former member of an organization that was called out in this article, I have to say that it was correct to contact National Headquarters rather than the individual chapters. It’s more official and doesn’t leave room for excuses by members who may just be trying to save face.

    I believe that Brittney did a wonderful job!

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  • AnonymousMay 1, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    Yes the AVERAGE is crappy. Yet many people honored Friday night at the Honors Recognition Banquet are from a Greek organization.

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    MichaelApr 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    The article is about MEDIAN GPAs. Isn’t it OBVIOUS that some Greeks will have GPAs that are higher than the median, and some Greeks will have GPAs that are lower than the median? Why shold Brittney have to point this out?

    The fact is that average GPAs for Greeks are crappy. The Wichitan blew the whistle on y’all, you’re embarrassed, and now you’re going after the Wichitan instead of owning up to your faults. MAN UP!

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    ban brittneyApr 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    It Brittney doesnt want the negative comments on her article then she shouldnt of wrote it…
    Where in the article does it mention that 66 Greek members have above a 3.5 and that over 10 have a 4.0?
    Nowhere….. point made… Brittney and the Wichitan dont like Greeks…

    Good luck on any event that the Wichitan or Mass Comm dept. ever needs help on, we will not help you now… EPIC FAIL TO YOU.

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      Brady TylerApr 23, 2012 at 9:27 PM

      That’s like saying that the Wall Street Journal doesn’t like Barack Obama because they reported a story on how he did something wrong or came up short on something.

      So the question is where in the story does it say the Wichitan and Brittney have a vendetta against Greeks? It doesn’t. She doesn’t and the Wichitan doesn’t. Neither does the Mass Communication department. Don’t begin to assume you know a collective group of people by one article written.

      What if I were to make a judgement on all of the Greeks because one chapter made a mistake or did something they shouldn’t have? It wouldn’t be fair.

      Sure, it would be nice to mention that many of the greeks have great GPAs, but she can’t go look at individual student GPAs. She can see the chapters’ GPAs because Kevin chose to make that information public.

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        wordApr 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM

        On the sheet that she was able to view, it does include the number of individuals (no names included) that had a 4.0 as well as the percentage of above a 3.5. Just saying, she should have included all information and not just the negative.
        It is apparent that the Wichitan has a vendetta when 3 of the articles in last weeks edition clearly show a disrespect towards those organizations.
        Article about GPA- clearly the entire thing is negative
        “Greek Tragedy” already in the name is it uncalled for, but to futher speak about a national organziation saying they have no priorities when clearly they are moral, ethical, and quite frankly better organization than the Wichitan.
        Article about student organziations by Sarah Long claiming that Greeks are only involved with themselves. So why then do you say the Wichitan doesnt have it out for Greeks?

        Just saying- GPA sure they can be worked on but the GPA needs to be worked on by EVERY student at MSU, Dont just call out a particular group unless you have done the research and are going to publish an article over every organization and athletic team.
        Greek Tregedy- Dont understand why you have to be repetitive and have two articles covering the same thing, however your reporter should look into Greek Week and see that it a a week of service not a week of academics.
        Organizations- Pretty sure that Greeks are more envolved than every other organization. Take Relay for Life for instance, (seeing that Sarah included this on her article) there were more Greek members present then non greeks and that is a proven fact, Look at the participants in the Auction- ALL GREEK, look at the participants in the miss relay pagent – at least 5 out of 6 were Greek. Look at the student organizations that were there, AKA, APhi, GPB, TKE, PSK, SAE, KDX, KSig and this is after they were thrown in the mud by the Wichitan.
        The Wichitan can say what it wants but just know that Greeks at MSU arent going anywhere, they are only going to prove that the Wichitan yet again reported a story that they clearly didnt have the right to do, or the correct information.

        Also, I think that if Brittney Cottingham is going to use my Fraternity in a story than she needs to contact me before publishing information. Instead she talks to a national office before consulting me. I think she could of done a better job becuase she would of understood why GPAs change every semester, not that she would of included it since she clearly didnt have a postive thing to say.

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    ehhhhh....Apr 23, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    I dont think that their should be a follow up story on how hard they are wokring on their grades. I think the story should be on how to properly report on a story and not be one sided when you are supposed to be the relfection of the student body. Its apparent to see through all the comments on several stories this week that The WIchitan has crossed some boundries and is not upholding its values. I dont think anyone is personally attacking Brittney for writing the article. There are facts in the article that sure, they should be addressed, but its not the Wichitan place to be the one calling attention. That should fall on the administration. However, the administration at MSU says that you must obtain a 2.0 to be in good standing so with that said, your organizations that have a 2.01 all the way to a 4.0 have the same regulations so why then does the Wichitan choose to disrespect one set of organizations. I do however know that the reporter on this article did mislead alot of information as well as chose to not include several statements made that were promoting the different ways of trying to achieve better academics. I also disagree with the remarks about Gamma Phi Beta national office. I find that completly disrespectful and think that the Wichitan should present a formal apology to the office.

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    my nameApr 23, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    there should be a follow-up story on how hard greeks are working on their grades this semester.

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    Get it straight.Apr 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    First, leave Brittany alone. She is a journalist and she is doing her job. She was more than likely assigned this job and reported accurately with amount of information that is avalible to her. Secondly, what I think everyone is missing here is that every organization needs to quit harassing the other one. Greeks get your grades up if you don’t want the negative press and The Wichitian quit digging for stories about the Greek community because it’s an easy target. I would have likes to see the grades of other organizations on campus. The paper ahold be objective and thing it misses the mark sometimes.

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    Anti WichitanApr 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    Actually Michael, I am not Greek and way to fall into sterotypes of the a caveman not a Greek, and great job representing yourself as being immature. I just have the common knoweldge that Greek members at MSU do alot more then they are credited. I find it funny that you and Brady are quick to defend the Wichitan but yet yall both complain when someone turns the finger and critisizes the paper. Sounds kinda hypocritical of you. The only Tragedy is that the Wichitan is supposed to be the voice of the MSU Students not the voice of some opinionated “journalist” who does not know how to be unbaised towards an article. The fact that you are supporting her article when she clearly did not get all her facts correct is beyond me. The article claims that MSU does not have standards set for Greeks when clearly they do. I know for a fact that the Greek chapters at MSU have to complete a packet that is called Standards of Excellence that is reported online, the same site that your “journalist” got the GPA’s from. So once again, she chose to either misrepresent the student organizations or she is just a lazy “journalist” who does not need to be conducting articles for this paper. The really sad part of it is that many mass comm people are critisizing Greek Life when I know for a fact that a majority of them are Greek and furthermore that most of the people in attendace at your Radio Therapy for Relay for Life are members of the Greek Community. So great job disrespecting the people who actually supported you last week. Great way to show your representation… You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    The sad part of the story is that Brittney chose to fabricate an article that she has no reason to write. Unless Brittney and the entire “staff” at the Wichitan are bosting 4.0 GPA’s then they need to take in their own words otherwise we will classify you as “a clear sign of this neglect.” You are right when you stated that “Priorities need to change. And soon.”, However the priorities that need to be changed are YOURS! Who gives you the right to critize your fellow students? How dare you cast your “greater then thou” attitude on organizations that do more community sevice, philanthropy, study hours, school pride, etc. than the Wichitan.

    All I have heard this week from “staff” members from the Wichitan is litterally “I hate Greeks” <— yes those are the exact words from some of mass comm indiviuals who work on the Wichitan. You hate Greeks because they have passion for becoming individuals who believe in doing better for the community? Wow. You hate them because they dont take things lying down. Well guess what, you better believe that if your going to write a negative article you going to get negative reviews.

    There is also an article in this paper written by Sarah Long. It talks about how people are not involved as much on campus. Well way to go Wichitan on making that situation even worse. You really think that the Greeks are going to want to get involved with events when you are just going to misinterprut things… Maybe YOU should practice what you preach before you cast the first stone.

    The next time you choose to represent MY University you might want to do a better job otherwise You crossed the line and took something that was once valued at MSU and now made the Wichitan be considered as trash. Thank you for ruining another MSU tradition. I hope your satisfied with your bad ethics and just remember about Karma.

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      Brady TylerApr 22, 2012 at 9:10 PM

      I don’t know what you gathered from my comment above, but I do not feel that I was at all hypocritical in regards to what I wrote. I did not bash any organizations or students. I merely commented on the fact that bullying a fellow student because she wrote an article is bad PR for the individual as well as their organization(s).

      And as far as the greeks/mass comm students nonsense goes, quite a few greeks may have selected “Attending” on the Facebook page for the event, but not too many showed up for the ACTUAL event. That is what I have an issue with. I am completely thankful to the ones that did, but that was a very small amount.

      Where is your evidence that any thing in this article was fabricated? If you are going to call someone out for making something up, you need to be able to provide the actual information. And I have never heard any of the staff members of the Wichitan say the phrase “I hate Greeks.”

      Maybe you are the one who needs to change your “greater than thou” attitude.

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    MichaelApr 19, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    @Martin Kuehler/Anti-Wichitan:

    Spoken like typical mouthbreathing, knuckledragging Greeks. Don’t you have a dwarf to toss somewhere, bruh?

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    Anti WichitanApr 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    this article, like this paper is a joke. How about you actually report the correct facts and not some disrespectful article by a girl who was probably denied membership because she doesnt know what it is to live by respect and dignity.

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    Martin KuehlerApr 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    hey loser get a life and some friends

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      Brady TylerApr 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM

      Seriously? That is extremely uncalled for.

      Brittany does have friends and she does have a life. Her career goal is to be in journalism… so I would say that her life is right where she wants it to be.

      It’s probably safe to guess that you are involved with the Greek Life at MSU, so I understand why this article would aggravate you. But, just because you don’t like something does not, under any circumstances, give you the right to talk down to anyone. Especially when they are speaking facts. What image are you creating for your organization by saying hateful things like that to someone says something you don’t want to hear.

      All I have heard today is how stupid The Wichitan is and how it should be cut from MSUs campus. That is ridiculous. The fact of the matter is that stories like this are what gets papers off the rack. It’s a business and if papers don’t get taken, then a great medium dies out.

      This is news, whether you want to hear it or not. Why should the Greek Chapters not be held to a higher standard? If academics is going to be bragged about by the greek systems, then they need to live up to that. I won’t deny that greek life has great benefits and it offers tremendous opportunities, but it should also be centrally focused on what it boasts about: “brotherhood & sisterhood, leadership and personal development, academics, and service to the university and the Wichita Falls community.”

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