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    MakakryMay 13, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    It is interesting to note that in our society today, if one stands on any position one is quickly booted out. No one wants to be convicted of their crimes whether personal or corporate…and all terminology everything is redefined. Marriage is no longer sacred. Gays do not want to discriminated against but they are allowed to do the same to others….isn’t it ironic? What is this world coming to? The reality is that there is a direct attack on morality and who best to challenge it than well respected leaders? No one wants to be judged. “Leave me alone to do my own thing!” Yet no freedom is without limitation. Freedom of choice is couched within responsibility and irresponsibility is the order of the day. Heaven help us all.

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      PS fom Sydney (re-edited)May 14, 2013 at 1:01 AM

      I suspect gays feel they are no different than others, regarding fundamental rights. No different than say being left-handed folk. The key issue with Carson remains his divisiveness, narrow-mindedness and his anachronistic view of so many of his fellow humans. He is rightfully acclaimed for his good deeds in professional fields – no doubt. On the other hand, he has made chosen himself to become a public figure: A controversial figure running against the grain of equal rights to the creation and expression of love stories.

      A commencement address is about the future. Why would a university select someone, whose social advocacy is based on the El godhead, from the second millennium BCE? Publicity, perhaps?

      Four thousand years ago, there may have been some ecological imperative to draw-up codes of law prohibiting gay rights among the Canaanites and afterwards the Hebrews. Maybe an anthropologist could explain, why?. The reason some ancients thought this way is almost certainly a response to ancient ecological conditions, rather than homosexually being innately immoral.

      Likewise, among the Australian aboriginals, before European settlement, there were various food prohibitions, say, tribe A could eat kangaroos but not lizards; whereas, tribe B, could eat lizards but not kangaroos. See the sense in it? Maybe, four thousand years ago, same-sex relationships threated social order in nomadic tribes? Again, ask an anthropologist. Luckily , we now live in world, where morality has evolved, beyond the needs of substance dwellers and the laws of imaginary gods.

      So, yes, any commencement address is about the future. These addresses are about the graduates; not high-profile ideologues,with their backs turned away from today’s values and tomorrow’s superior prospects.

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    PS fom Sydney (re-edited)May 12, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Dear Blogmaster; Re-Edited – Please substitute for my earlier post under a different email address…

    You can remove the Hilter Utube clip on the other post too: Over top, on reflection.

    Thanks.

    Peter S.
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    The choice of any controversial figure at a Commencement Address is like deliberately putting one’s hand in the fire. Certainly, something to be avoided.

    MSU is a university of high regard. In future, surely, its Executive should invite more suitable candidates. Why not select speakers expressive of the future, not the past?

    I was the Executive Dean of two large unicentres in Asia. We ran the offshore programs on behalf of American, Australian and United Kingdom universities. At graduation, we characteristically had two key speakers. These speakers were always contemporaneously tethered, with an inspirational vision of the future. They knew where new graduates are always headed: i.e., Commencement, by definition, an upcoming arrow-of-time.

    For our Asian graduates, what was always important on our graduation days was the credibility of the speaker and the message. What was to be avoided was any hint of partisanism, extremism or biased social advocacy. It followed, controversial and contentious figures didn’t even make the short list. We certainly would not consider a controversial figure with one foot in the nineteenth century, whose sociology is to basic common freedoms, as a box kite to a space shuttle.

    Why not Dr Carson?

    The greater modern public has become more insightful about compassions of others, whom find love in their own way, without harm to society. The car has replaced the horse.

    Old prejudices are fortunately dimming. In Australia, from where I write, religious universities aside; Dr Carson, would have trouble being employed, under secular university antidiscrimination charters, were he inclined to practise what he preaches.

    Your President Lincoln said, “Why should there not be a patient confidence in the ultimate justice of the people? Is there any better, or equal, hope in the world?”. Powerful words. Sadly, not an aspiration adopted by Dr Carson, who profiles as an incubus, stifling breath from sovereignty of personal love.

    President Rogers, please allow your graduate’s to be inspired by unbiased and visionary speakers. Unpretentious speakers, from your community, who will enlightened graduates’ formative steps towards a world more embracing of the whole of humanity.

    Peter PhD
    Sydney, Australia

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    ConsiderMay 11, 2013 at 3:40 AM

    I wonder whether all the staff and graduates are gay, and approve of only “supporters of gay speakers” OR whether some are non-gay and hold the views of Mr Ben Carson? (SURVEY!!!!) Another question, isn’t speaking against or violence against non-gay supporters discrimination, as well as doing the same to gay-supporters? So where does it all begin and end? R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

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      Peter fom SydneyMay 11, 2013 at 11:24 PM

      Your post is barely literate. But I will try to explain:

      If the One Eyed Flying Purple People Eater is discriminatory; THEN BAD,

      ELSE,

      If the One Eyed Flying Purple People Eater is NOT discriminatory; THEN GOOD,

      LOOP; until you understand:

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    I've EvolvedMay 10, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    I wonder if all you simpleton haters would be saying the same thing if the Prezee had come to speak before he so-called “evolved” on his stance about gays (it’s ok, we all know he didn’t do it for the principal of the matter, it was for the campaign cash). If it bothers you so much to hear an intelligent and thoughtful man speak about inspiration and becoming a better person then by all means, please DO get up and leave, I’ll be cheering you all the way out the door, don’t let the doorhandle hit your fanny on the way out. Your silly intolerance won’t ruin the day for the rest of us.

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    jonMay 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Obviously the school is racist.

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    PhilMay 7, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    From what I see, the sad part is that the people who scream for diversity the loudest, usually don’t understand how to actually promote it. I have no problem with diversity because every human being has an opinion that is uniquely their own. To promote diversity is to simply allow for individuals to express their own opinion. Whether you agree with their opinion or not shouldn’t even be relevant if you truly want to promote diversity.

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    Komrade Vladimir KonformskiMay 7, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Well said Komrade Stephanie…about time these proles step up and defend diversity with the, “bekause, like, you know, it is really kool, and stuff.” Teach the imperialist bastards that only party approved speech kan be considered doubleplusgood! Down the memory hole with Herr KKKarson!

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    JeanneMay 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM

    Apparently the Wichitan is now the only newspaper in town. If the TRN had a story on this, they must have printed it in invisible ink. There’ s nothing I can find on either TV station, either, but Channel 6 did deem it fit to televise the engagement or some such story about the weather girl. It was the Wichitan that broke the Harvey house story and two other examples of questionable spending of donor funds. Keep up the good work!

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    StephanieMay 4, 2013 at 4:49 AM

    All of you who are claiming she beat herself with her own argument are truly ignorant in a way I just can’t understand. That man’s desire is to do away with diversity. If the thought of two people honestly and whole heartedly loving each other creeps you out, here’s an idea: GET YOUR DAMN NOSE OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS. I’m sure your “God” would be thrilled to see you passing judgement on a group of people who don’t want a man filled with hatred delivering a speech about his successes in life while he believes that our group is destined for nothing but trouble. We are more than who we love. If that man has a differing opinion, good for him. Diversity is truly a necessity or we would all be boring as hell. The difference is that this man spouts hatred. I’m sure if an atheist or an openly gay individual were making such an important speech, all you “tolerant Christians” would be up in arms. The point of having an opinion is to speak your mind and change the world for the better. Not to offend or harm others.

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      PhilMay 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

      I trust you’re not being judgemental yourself, seeing as you are the only person on this thread to have injected religion into the discussion, only to prove how intollerant you are.

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    Doesn't MatterMay 3, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    I don’t see what the big deal is. I mean, they already passed on 2 speakers before this one. One guy who said “girls are just goats with more savory vaginas and less hairy breasts.” And another who said “colored people are more like baboons than full humans.” Hey, Hitler was brilliant on some level too!
    Here’s the deal, dummies. This Carson guy, and everyone like him, will go the way of the idiots who said people with darker skin tones were monkeys and women weren’t equal to men. It’s totall bullshit. But fine, you go ahead and align yourself with him. Watch your silly little town go down in history as some final holdout in what you’ve been told is the “American Way”. That’s gonna happen. Please quit making everyone that lives here look so stupid.

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    xandyMay 3, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    This is not a matter of simple he disagrees with homosexuality, and so its covered by his diversity. This man compared homosexuals to child molesters and those who engage in Beastiality… It want a simple”i don’t agree” he holds the assumption that people who are gay are deviants. Yes he is a brilliant surgeon,but that does not make what he said any less repugnant and i am disgusted he is speaking at my graduation…gonna sneak in a marriage equality ribbon on my robes.

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    JeanneMay 3, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    It’s one thing to be against gay marriage and quite another to associate gays with pedophilia and beastiality. Carson has offended part of his audience and he hasn’t even arrived yet. It’ s a shame that the state provides such skimpy funding for colleges. That leaves college presidents overly beholden to donors. One is known for his extreme
    right wing views and his poor taste in espressing them. He has been
    rumored to have put financial pressure to bear on one organization.
    This may be the grinch that stole graduation.

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    MattMay 3, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Wow. I can’t believe how idiotic these comments are.

    It must hurt to know that history is leaving bigots like you in the dust.

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    Brandon MillerMay 2, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    I really hope President Jesse Rogers changes his mind in letting him speak. As a gay man I would not want to go to my graduation if he was going to speak. With homosexuality in the news as it is Rogers should know better than to have Carson speak. If he can’t accept homosexuality he should not be giving words of wisdom for the graduates. I hope MSU can pull through and do the right thing for the better of the school and all students. It would really mean a lot to the gay community not only at MSU but also all of Wichita Falls.

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    Komrade Vladimir KonformskiMay 2, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    Komrades! Thank you for speaking truth to imperialist power, Amerikkka! Time for akademiks, and the Komrades in akademia, to intitiate sekond five-year purge of bourgeoisie offspring from thinking impure thoughts…thoughts, I remind you, that keep Dear Leader’s plan of hyponitik indoktriniation of the masses from bekoming our shared destiny! One might argue—wrongly, of kourse—that akademia is meant for pursuit of truth! Ha! What a typikal bourgeois response. Young minds are ours! Free thought is imperialist! Think for yourself, just konform to kurrent truth and we shall rise above fray! We must think alike to be diverse!

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    PhilMay 1, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    “If we’re all about promoting diversity, this is a counter to that,” Jefferson said.

    Wow, this lady just beat herself with her own argument, and probably doesn’t even realize it. Let me see if I understand this correctly. You want to promote diversity by protesting for the removal of scheduled a speaker because he has a different opinion than yours? Hypocritical much?

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    CameronMay 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    “’If we’re all about promoting diversity, this is a counter to that,’ Jefferson said.”

    Except, you know, the diversity of opinion on the issue.

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    KaiMay 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Ahhh….diversity….what a wonderful thing it is, as long as it goes along with Ms. Jefferson’s short sighted view on things. It’s called diversity of opinions you idiot, we don’t all have to the same opinion as you and no one should have the right to discriminate against Mr. Carson like that. Also, while you prattle on about how you won’t listen to a word he will say, he’s talking to students about graduation, not preaching his views on gay marriage. Mr. Carson is a good man, for goodness sake he separated twins conjoined at the head and dramatically changed their lives for the better. God forbid he have an opinion that differs from yours whether you think it’s wrong or not. If you don’t like what he has to say, stay home, he’s done more good for the world helping children with neurological disorders and giving them a better life. That’s what Ben Carson should be known for and judged on, not a simple opinion that (newsflash, and please sit down because this might surprise you) that a lot of people in this country, including myself, hold.

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    Vinny MvMullenMay 1, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Two assertions of the Tolerance crowd:
    1 We believe in Free Speech
    2 Shut Up.
    ~ DW

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    AnonymousMay 1, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    So, we’re gonna protest the man because of an opinion he has?

    There’s way too much butthurt going around.

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      Peter fom SydneyMay 12, 2013 at 12:28 AM

      Yes, I would object to some speakers. Even an opinionated orator, in fine form:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfSW6HNiQUk

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